Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

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Jehoschua
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Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

Post by Jehoschua » Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:52 am

Hello

If we use the Tabs context menu to copy the full Filename,
we every time have to try to get the right menu item, because Sapien ignores the usual anatomy of a filename :-(


This is the usual anatomy of a filename:

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             +---> this is usually named 'Folder Path' or 'File Path' 
-------------+------------
C:\Directory\SubDirectory\Filename.ext
-------------+------------------------ 
             +---> this is usually named 'Full Filename', but *never* 'File Path'
So, please finally fix the misleading "Copy File Path" and change it to something like "Copy full Filename",
so that we can just use the Menu items because they tell us what they are really doing :-)

Thanks a lot,
kind regards,
Jehoschua

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Re: Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

Post by Alexander Riedel » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:28 pm

A path is a sequence of steps, in this case directories or folders, towards a destination, which can be a file or a folder in itself.
As such "file path" and "folder path" are semantically correct and indicate exactly what the do.
These items have been named like that for ages and no one else seems to mind or having trouble understanding them.

A "Full file name" on the other hand is ambiguous. Does that include a path or just the title and extension? One would not know, because it is simply not indicative of its function.

Besides, is seems we have already been through this:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11267&p=60888&hili ... ath#p60888

But once again the question is, who is 'we' ?
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Re: Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

Post by Jehoschua » Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:12 pm

Isn't it fun that PowerShell itself uses 'FullName' to indicate exactly what it means?

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Get-ChildItem -LiteralPath c:\Temp -File | select -First 1 -ExpandProperty FullName
C:\Temp\DefaultAppAssociations.xml
and no one else seems to mind or having trouble understanding them
You're probably wrong:
if we see that complaints / suggestions are ignored, then we usually don't repeat the same issue and live with them or look for alternatives. In addition, as a rule we only do the work when something has disturbed us for a very long time.

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Re: Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

Post by Alexander Riedel » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:34 pm

Yeah, well, Visual Studio uses "Copy Full Path", where does that leave us?
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Re: Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

Post by Jehoschua » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:33 pm

Maybe it is a regional topic, if we use the term 'path', then it never contains a file name.

For us, 'Full File path' is a more obvious term,
because it suggests it contains more than just the path.

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Re: Anatomy of a Filename - Please fix the wrong naming "Copy Folder Path" and "Copy File Path"

Post by Alexander Riedel » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:21 am

I doubt that. You are from Switzerland and I am from Germany, no too many cultural differences there.

I will spend today polling some Germans here on this, since I am currently here anyway.
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